How To Update Your BIOS On An ASUS K8VSEDeluxe
I've been having trouble getting my memory to run at full speed on this new to me motherboard. It should run at DDR400 speeds. If I run one stick of 512MB memory in slot 1 I can get the stuff to run at top speed. If I populate slots 1 & 2 or slots 1 & 3 then the most I can get out of the memory is less than DDR333 speeds. This is the case with three different types of memory, two of which are from ASUS's recommended list. The third is some high end memory that does run at DDR400 speeds on the mobo it was originally purchased for.
I originally tried to downgrade my BIOS by flashing it with ASUS's ASUSUpdate Windows tool, but it wouldn't let me flash an older BIOS over a newer one. Tonight I finally reinstalled a floppy drive so I could downgrade my BIOS to an older version that allowed for changing memory timings.
1) I downloaded the 1005 BIOS zip file from ASUS last week.
2) Today I unzipped it and then renamed it to K8VSEDX.ROM
3) Then downloaded AFUDOS.ZIP from the ASUS site.
4) Unzipped AFUDOS.EXE from the ZIP file.
5) Copied both AFUDOS.EXE and K8VSEDX.ROM onto a floppy that had been formatted as a boot disk.
6) Rebooted and in BIOS I enabled the floppy drive.
7) Rebooted and then set up my BOOT order. (Wouldn't let me set to boot to floppy until I did this)
8) Rebooted and came up at the A:/ prompt.
9) Typed 'afudos.exe /ik8vsedx.rom' at the prompt, hit enter and prayed.
10) The flash worked and memory timings are again available.
At the time I had Kingston memory installed so I tried to manually set the timings to 3-3-3-8 @ 200MHz. According to the memory's SPD these settings should work, but I couldn't even boot into Windows. I tried to loosen them up a bit while still leaving the speed at 200MHz, but the system wouldn't boot all the way into Windows. I reduced the speed to 150MHz and set the timings to 2.5-3-3-7 and the memory worked stable. One note, I used the same timings with the speed set to 166MHz, but CPU-z still reported the memory running at 150MHz. Not sure why.
I replaced the Kingston memory with Kingmax and manually set the timings to 2.5-3-3 per their spec sheet. Windows booted up and everything seemed to work. HalfLife 2 looked and played right. Dungeon Siege however showed artifacts. Per the memory's reported SPD settings I loosened the timings to 2.5-4-4 at 200MHz and then even Dungeon Siege looked right.
Both the Kingston and Kingmax memory are from ASUS's recommended memory list, KVR400X64C3A/512 and MPXC22D-38KT3R respectively. Both types are 512MB sticks and I have two sticks of each. Neither setup at whatever speed settings reports as working in dual channel mode even with two slots populated. Again, not sure why. More memory stability testing is in order, but for now at least my memory is running at top speed possible.
Update: Well I've been corresponding with someone and together we've been comparing results as far as getting memory to work at full speed. I shared the above info with him. As far as the memory running in single channel mode, that is normal. There are some differences between the 754-pin and 939-pin Athlon64s. One of those differences being that the 754-pin chip only has a single memory controller while the 939-pin chip has a dual controller. Thanks Joe.
I originally tried to downgrade my BIOS by flashing it with ASUS's ASUSUpdate Windows tool, but it wouldn't let me flash an older BIOS over a newer one. Tonight I finally reinstalled a floppy drive so I could downgrade my BIOS to an older version that allowed for changing memory timings.
1) I downloaded the 1005 BIOS zip file from ASUS last week.
2) Today I unzipped it and then renamed it to K8VSEDX.ROM
3) Then downloaded AFUDOS.ZIP from the ASUS site.
4) Unzipped AFUDOS.EXE from the ZIP file.
5) Copied both AFUDOS.EXE and K8VSEDX.ROM onto a floppy that had been formatted as a boot disk.
6) Rebooted and in BIOS I enabled the floppy drive.
7) Rebooted and then set up my BOOT order. (Wouldn't let me set to boot to floppy until I did this)
8) Rebooted and came up at the A:/ prompt.
9) Typed 'afudos.exe /ik8vsedx.rom' at the prompt, hit enter and prayed.
10) The flash worked and memory timings are again available.
At the time I had Kingston memory installed so I tried to manually set the timings to 3-3-3-8 @ 200MHz. According to the memory's SPD these settings should work, but I couldn't even boot into Windows. I tried to loosen them up a bit while still leaving the speed at 200MHz, but the system wouldn't boot all the way into Windows. I reduced the speed to 150MHz and set the timings to 2.5-3-3-7 and the memory worked stable. One note, I used the same timings with the speed set to 166MHz, but CPU-z still reported the memory running at 150MHz. Not sure why.
I replaced the Kingston memory with Kingmax and manually set the timings to 2.5-3-3 per their spec sheet. Windows booted up and everything seemed to work. HalfLife 2 looked and played right. Dungeon Siege however showed artifacts. Per the memory's reported SPD settings I loosened the timings to 2.5-4-4 at 200MHz and then even Dungeon Siege looked right.
Both the Kingston and Kingmax memory are from ASUS's recommended memory list, KVR400X64C3A/512 and MPXC22D-38KT3R respectively. Both types are 512MB sticks and I have two sticks of each. Neither setup at whatever speed settings reports as working in dual channel mode even with two slots populated. Again, not sure why. More memory stability testing is in order, but for now at least my memory is running at top speed possible.
Update: Well I've been corresponding with someone and together we've been comparing results as far as getting memory to work at full speed. I shared the above info with him. As far as the memory running in single channel mode, that is normal. There are some differences between the 754-pin and 939-pin Athlon64s. One of those differences being that the 754-pin chip only has a single memory controller while the 939-pin chip has a dual controller. Thanks Joe.
posted by Little Kenny at 6/23/2005 07:22:00 PM
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Baking Soda
What it is, How it works, How we use it & How it came to be so popular:
Baking soda is actually sodium bicarbonate (also known as bicarbonate ofsoda). It is found naturally in mineral deposits, lake sediments, and groundwater. It is even found in our oceans where its bicarbonate chemistry seemingly works to stabilize the carbon dioxide content of the earth's atmosphere.
Virtually all baking soda in North America today comes from the mined mineral, trona, which can be found in large amounts in one place- GreenRiver, Wyoming. (Other large deposits of trona can be found in Kenya, Egypt, Venezuela and the deserts of Central Asia.) This massive deposit was discovered in the 1930s on federal lands.
Trona is actually half sodium bicarbonate and half its chemical cousin, sodium carbonate, some of which ends up as the more familair washing soda. Trona is deep mined as opposed to an open-pit procedure. The ore is brought to the surface, crushed, washed and heated to make sodium carbonate. When this is dissolved in water and carbondioxide is bubbled throught the solution, sodium bicarbonate crystals form and fall out of the solution. These crystals then go through a washing and drying process before the product is packaged and distributed.
Baking Soda is manufactured in one other factory - a natural factory: the human body. Here it maintains the correct acidity level (or pH) of the blood stream. It is found in our saliva, where it neutralizes the plaque acids in our mouth to prevent teeth from dissolving.
The same body production of sodium bicarbonate neutralizes stomach acids to help prevent ulcers. It helps people to breathe by carrying carbon dioxide from bodily tissue to the lungs,where it is exhaled.
Amazing! How and Why Does it Work?
Baking soda has a few fundamental qualities which overlap:
1) It has a soft crystalline molecular quality.
2) It has the ability to neutralize acidity.
3) It is a leavening agent.
4) It is able to absorb many odors.
Abrasive Ability: Baking soda's first attribute makes it mildly abrasive, which is why its known for its gentle yet effective cleaning ability. It is soluable in water, which allows the crytals to "round off " and dissolve before they can scratch or damage a surface.
A Natural Neutralizer: Baking soda's ability to buffer or neutralize acids naturally (keeping the pH as close to neutal as possible) enables it to work in a wide range ofseemingly unconnected applications. It can modify kitchen odors before they evaporate and smell bad, as well as neutralize acid corrosion on car battery terminals, and neutralize the acid in mosquito venom which is what causes such bites to itch.
Baking soda can even be used to reduce the corrosion of drinking water in municipal water supplies, therefore reducing lead and copper toxicity.
There are many medicinal uses for baking soda. It is used in kidney dialysis to reduce the level of acids in the bloodstream and as a antacid to control acid indigestion. It can even act to prevent microbial growth in food products.
Dirt and grease are usually composed of fatty acids that can be neutralized by baking soda, too. Once neutralized, the fatty acids dissolve inwater and can be easily wiped away.
Baking soda can neutralize unpleasant airborne odors (because odors are usually acid-based, much like sour milk smelling bad) because it chemically neutralizes them too. Baking soda alsoworks on our own body odors, pet urine odors or the mouth-plaque that causes bad-breath.
Other products often rely on added fragrances which mask odors; with baking soda such odors are actually gone because the offensive smell has been absorbed.
A Baking Boon: Its leavening abilities in cooking are also rooted in acid-base chemistry. When baking soda is mixed with an acid (such as milk, chocolate, vinegar, lemon juice, or large amounts of honey or molasses) it neutralizes the acid component and releases carbon dioxide air bubbles. This is turn causes themixture to rise from these carbon dioxide bubbles that are now trapped by the gluten - the stretchy protein in wheat flour. Not only does it work this way for cakes, muffins and other baked goods - both commercial and homemade - but it can also be used to make brittlecandies airy and porous.
Baking soda is often confused with baking powder since they leaven in much the same way. Baking powder, however, is a combination of both baking soda and an acid (such as cream of tarter) with which it will react when added to a liquid. Therefore it works well in recipes that do not include other acid ingredients.
Today's double-acting baking powder acts in two ways because it contains two types of acids. One is activated by moisture, the other isactivated by heat. The additional tiny air bubbles released during the baking process create a finer texture to baked goods. (Be aware that too much additional baking powder can result in a "sunken" baked product. Proportions count. This is one situation where "more" is not necessarily better.)
Other Traits: Baking soda has other uses that are not related to its abrasive, buffering or baking abilities. For one, it works as a fire extinguisher when applied to a grease or electrical fire.
It is also used in water softening products because it does just that. It is used for biological and medicinal purposes as an ingredient in over-the-counter and prescription drugs.
In the plant care world, it is sometimes used to control the development of mold, fungus and mildew. It is used in animal feed lots. It is blended into feed for cows to maximize milk output so beef cattle maintain their maximum weight gain.
Its added to chicken feed to produce tougher egg shells and control the amount ofsodium chloride. The list goes on...
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